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Sunday, January 27, 2013

January 2013 Comments: Berlusconi, Mussolini, China's One Child...

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One only need read Jonah Goldberg's book on Liberal Fascism to see all the Western leaders who praised Mussolini in the 1920s and 30s, including Winston Churchill and many stars of the Left. Some of the leaders of the Fascist Party in the 20s were Jews. Only after the alliance with Hitler did Italy begin to impose racial laws against Jews. Read Jonah Goldberg for comments more favorable to the Duce than Berlosconi's, and uttered by liberals and progressives.

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Goldberg is a bit nuts. In his book, "Liberal Fascism" he calls the administrations of Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton "fascist"

Liberals in the 1920's worked to get women the right to vote, while people like Hitler and Mussolini believed they should raise children, stay in the kitchen, and go to church, hence the Nazi slogan: "Kinder, Kirche, und Kuche" (Children, Church, and Kitchen). Liberals also opposed racism and militarism.

Any intersection of values or policies between liberals and fascists was scant and short-lived, at best. The #$%$ held strongly rightwing beliefs: nationalism, militarism, and corporatism.

In the 1920s and more in the 1930s when women fought for "equal rights," they were more likely to be Republicans.  The liberals always favored "protection" for women, even in sports.  Competition was bad for women, according to liberals, and they sought to change sport competitions into more fun, less competitive displays.  Liberal labor views, even with Sec. Perkins in FDR's Cabinet, was more to get men to have a wage sufficient enough for him to support his family.  And there was nothing against the church in the New Deal.  Big government and monuments and the art that accompanied them seem almost identical in the US, Germany, Italy, and the USSR - exceptions, the postal murals in the US.
Big government, socialism, was an attribute of all in the 30s.  Nationalism was certainly part of the package, even in the US.  And FDR in his first 2 terms certainly did not disturb segregation and racism in the South or elsewhere in the US.  The NRA was big government joined with the big corporations to crush the small business.  Corporatism.
Liberals generally admired Mussolini in the 20s and 30s up to his attack on Abbysinia, and some even after that.
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How lucky I am to reside in Milwaukee County. Despite the pro-crime policies of the Democrat Mayor Barrett (he ran against GOP Gov. Walker, and lost, twice in the past few years) and Chief of Police Flynn, Sheriff Clarke, a Black Democrat has a sensible view. Barrett and Flynn lead the anti-gun, pro-crime crowd. Sheriff Clarke is a reasonable Democrat, willing to disagree with the liberals who seek to disarm the honest citizens and let the criminals run wild and free.
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Hillary assured relatives of the murdered Americans in Benghazi that the maker of the video would be arrested. She and Obama were in an advert in Pakistan stressing the horrible nature of the video. They lied to the American people and the world about the video, blaming free speech in America for acts of Muslim terrorists.
Hillary and Obama cheered the Arab Spring, which is a continuing disaster. They assured us that fanatical Muslim Morsi, who is now Pres. of Egypt, and his Muslim Brotherhood were moderate. Morsi calls the Israelis descendants of apes and pigs.
The Obama/Hillary foreign policy is leading the world to war. Their pro-Muslim policies have encouraged the terrorists - to the killers in Algeria and Mali in the past few days.
Americans have made a terrible mistake by reelecting Obama and his pro-Muslim, even pro-fanatical Muslim, policies.
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Being gay IS normal. It is as normal as being left-handed rather than right-handed. Why are there gays? Why are there lefties? Prejudice against left-handers once deemed them sinister. Prejudice against gays considers them sinners. It is the same absurd prejudice.
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King's speech was part of the movement of the early 60s to end discrimination, to treat people without regard to race, creed, or color. That was one of the slogans of the era. King was in DC to promote a civil rights bill. That bill created an equal opportunity commission - NOT a commission to grant preferences to this pet group or that.
Nixon made affirmative action a national policy, and too many Republicans refuse to repudiate this outrageous discrimination against poor and middle class whites.
Giving scholarships to poor performing Blacks and denying them to better qualified whites is racial discrimination. It is racist.
And if we have illegal alien amnesty, most illegals jump to the front of the immigration line, AND to the front of the employment line because of affirmative action.
Why should an illegal have affirmative action preferences over an American citizen?
Nixon, the EEOC, and the Democrats have created a nightmare from King's dream.
Obama gave many speeches about how we should all play by the same rules. Affirmative action insures that we DO NOT play by the same rules; preferences for this group, more preferences for that group; and ignore and humiliate white men.
For a just society, we must destroy affirmative action.
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Hugh Murray  •  7 days ago Remove
How nice for a Democratic activist to give free advice to Republicans! If the Republicans ever want to win, they should not cave to the illegals and the supporters of invasion. They should demand equal rights for all citizens, and an end to affirmative action that insures that we do NOT play by the same rules. If illegals get amnesty, they will get a-a preferences over most American citizens, in college admissions, scholarships, jobs, promotions, etc. It is outrageously unfair.
Of course, one expects such injustice from the Democrats. But keep your destructive advice to yourself.
The GOP should be the party of equal rights for all citizens. Unfortunately, 7 of 8 Hispanics voted against equal rights. That is not the fault of the GOP - it shows the selfishness of most Hispanic voters.

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Hugh Murray  •  7 days ago Remove
Obama's Arab Spring - more persecution of Christians in Egypt in the past few days, and tons of weapons on way to attack Israel, Israel is a nation composed of descendants of apes and pigs, according to Egyptian Pres. Morsi, This Middle Eastern nightmare is in part the result of Hillary's policies and those of her boss.
All thanks to Barack Hussein Obama!

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Hugh Murray  •  11 days ago Remove
If there are fewer workers entering the work place, wages may have to rise - and that is an economic effect of the policy. Some of the effects, I question. Many pupils attend boarding schools, where they have several room mates, who become like brothers and sisters. At university, they will have 7 other roommates for the full 4 years. Again, they may become like brothers and sisters, trusting, etc.
In the rural areas, the 1-child policy was not adopted, so there were usually two children.
"Oppressed" minorities were allowed to have as many children as they wanted. The leader of the terrorist Muslim Uigers had 8 children. China would do better by abolishing its affirmative action policies for ungrateful minorities.

Monday, January 21, 2013


BY DAVID M. JORDAN (Bloomington & Indianapolis: Indiana U. Press, c2011)
Rev. by Hugh Murray
            Jordan concludes his book reflecting “on a particularly nasty election campaign, caused,…,by…Republicans’ lack of real issues (hence the…Communism emphasis)….”(p. 331)  I disagree.  It was a nasty campaign BECAUSE there were real issues that separated Republicans and Democrats, and one issue rightly concerned communism.
            In January 1944 in a radio address President Franklin Roosevelt basically read his State of the Union message to the nation, and also to allay fears about secret arrangements at recent international meetings in Moscow, Cairo, and Teheran, asserted “there were no secret treaties or political or financial commitments.”(66)  October 8, 1944, during a Polish parade in New York City, and with only a month before the presidential election, New York Gov. Dewey denounced FDR’s secret deals concerning the future of Poland.(261)  Three days later President Roosevelt met with Polish Americans to assure them there would be no (Soviet) puppet government established in Poland nor would there be major population transfers.  Who was more accurate, Dewey with his wild, anti-Communist charges, or FDR with his platitudes?  Was this not a “real” issue?  Recall, WWII began as a defense of the Polish nation.
            Somewhat like John Dos Passos’ USA, Jordan punctuates his narrative with short snapshots of the culture of the time: Tallulah Bankhead in the Hitchcock’s film Lifeboat, Broadway singing homage to “Oklahoma,” bobby soxers screaming for Frank Sinatra, Count Fleet winning the Triple Crown, and the flight of Walt Disney’s Dumbo.  Yet, for contrast, Jordan should have included the 1943 film, Mission to Moscow, based on the diaries of FDR’s first Ambassador to the Soviet Union, Joseph Davies.  True, the USSR and the USA were then allies.  But the film stresses the superb leadership of the Soviet Union under Stalin, and it concludes that those executed in the purge trials were indeed traitors, a view challenged at the time by most knowledgeable observers, and one exposed as fraud by Khrushchev in his famous speech of the 1950s.  The movie was such propaganda for the Soviets that during the Cold War, Congress would use this as an example of Communist influence in Hollywood.  Yet, the film was based on the book by FDR’s appointed ambassador.  If it were simply Communist propaganda, what does that indicate about the Ambassador and the man who appointed him?  In 1950 Hollywood mogul Jack Warner testified, telling Congressmen that he had been requested to make the film by Davies and by Roosevelt.  Hollywood produced several films, like North Star, depicting the happy collective farmers of the Ukraine who undergo a terrible sneak attack by the Germans in 1941.  The latter part is true, but the film says nothing of the unhappy Ukrainians who starved by the millions a decade earlier as a consequence of Stalin’s policies.
            How could anyone associate President Roosevelt with Communism?  In his State of the Union speech of January 1944, he introduced his Economic Bill of Rights.  I quote Jordan:  “Roosevelt enumerated these rights: the ‘right to a useful and remunerative job’ to earn enough to provide adequate food, clothing, and recreation; the right of the farmer to sell his produce for a decent living; the right of businessmen large and small to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and monopolies; the ’right of every family to a decent home’; the right to adequate medical care and good health; the right to ‘protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment’; and the ‘right to a good education.’”(66) 
Even in today’s America, these are radical proposals.  “The right to a decent home?”  To achieve this goal the federal government pressured banks to lower their standards in making loans to purchase housing, basically awarding homes to those who could not pay for them.  When the bubble burst in 2008 the right to decent housing was exposed as a right that required the ability to repay loans.  The US government and the world economies are still suffering because of the liberal attempts to establish this right for poor credit risks.  Moreover, the struggle over Hillary Care in the 1990s and Obama Care in 2010 indicate that many Americans are suspicious of government intrusion in the health industry, even if to establish a right to adequate medical care and good health.  FDR’s Economic Bill of Rights did not make him a Communist, but it did demonstrate that his policies were radical, far more radical than the programs of the Republicans.  There were real issues separating the parties.
The differences can be illustrated again by another issue altogether absent from Jordan’s history, Roosevelt’s Executive Order 9250.  Jordan discusses taxes in his text, and relates an important speech by Ken. Sen. Alben Barkley criticizing President Roosevelt.(73)  Yet, in that Executive Order Roosevelt proposed a tax on all salaries over $25,000.  Basically any earnings above $25,000 were to be taxed at 100%, in effect making a cap on earnings at 25K.  Above that, there would be a confiscatory tax.  Admittedly, there were certain qualifications in the Order, such as regarding life insurance, yet it was a proposal.  Because it was related to a law that was set to expire in 1944, this Order was never enforced.  Yet, it shows the thinking of the President, and how radical it was.  A salary cap of $25K!  And though that amount was worth more than 10 times the amount in today’s dollars, we know that when taxes are initiated with a stated amount, that amount seldom increases as fast as the inflation rate.  Had FDR’s Executive Order been enforced and extended, the US would be a more socialist nation.  But Jordan never mentions this.  He fails to see the major differences between the GOP and the Democrats in 1944.
Because Jordan dismisses the major issues separating Dewey and FDR in 1944, he sees it as a nasty campaign in which the GOP used the Communist issue because it had no real issues.  Jordan does indeed provide many examples of how Gov. Dewey, and especially his running mate, Gov. Bricker used anti-Communism in the campaign.(237, 238, 239, 242, 244, 253, 266, 280, and many more).  Although Roosevelt was engaged in the conduct of the war, he also did some campaigning, and he responded to his critics on the Communist issue in a radio speech on October 5.  “Labor-haters, bigots, and some politicians use the term ‘Communism’ loosely, and apply it to every progressive social measure and to the virtues of every foreign-born citizen with whom they disagree…This form of fear propaganda is not new among rabble rousers and fomenters of class hatred—who seek to destroy democracy itself.  It is used by Mussolini’s black shirts and by Hitler’s brown shirts.  It has been used before in this country by the silver shirts and others on the lunatic fringe.  …I have never sought, and I do not welcome the support of any person or group committed to Communism, or Fascism, or any other foreign ideology which would undermine the American system of government, of the American system of free enterprise and private property.”(252)
Not only did the Communists indirectly support FDR and the Democrats, there were those with pro-Communist views inside the Roosevelt Administration (like former Ambassador Davies), AND there were Soviet spies.  The Manhattan Project was developing the A-bomb for the United States, but members of this project, like the young Theodore Hall (Holtzberg), were passing those secrets on to the Rosenbergs or other couriers so the bomb could be developed for Stalin; in the Dept. of State some “experts” were already undermining the official government of Chiang Kai-Shek in China, demanding that he conclude a deadly alliance with Mao and the Communists; and others like Alger Hiss, who by not providing FDR information at Yalta allowed a large Japanese island to be assigned to the Soviets when the war had concluded.  If one thinks I have exaggerated, Russian leader Vladimir Putin, in a speech of January 2012 openly gave thanks to the atomic spies who helped arm the Soviets.  He declared they delivered suitcases full of secrets.  And then he emphasized suitcases full!
One issue Dewey did not raise, and this is discussed only slightly in Jordan’s book, was the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese in December 1941.(240)  Was the surprise attack a surprise?  An officer leaked to Dewey the charge that Roosevelt knew the Japanese would attack because the US had broken their code.  When Gen George Marshall heard what Dewey might do, he wrote to the Republican candidate, asking that he not make this an issue because the Japanese were still using that code, and Americans were still deciphering it to aid Allied movements.  Dewey suspected that the Japs were no longer using the code, and moreover, several media outlets had already stated that the US had broken the code.  Nevertheless, Dewey did not accuse FDR of knowing prior to the “sneak” attack on Pearl Harbor.  The charge of FDR’s duplicity in the attack has been made through the years – most recently and effectively by Robert Stinnett in his 2001 book claiming that the day of infamy was in reality a Day of Deceit.  The History Channel produced a program based on this work.  The point is that in the election following to the Pearl Harbor losses, the American voter had no opportunity to vote on the disputed claims concerning Roosevelt’s role in Pearl Harbor.  
              With Jordan’s omissions of all these important issues – before the public, or suspected behind the scenes, then what is left to report in his book?  The remnants, the scraps, and the scrapes.  Admittedly, Jordan weaves a fine story from the leftovers.
            Republicans had high hopes in 1944 because they had performed so well in the off-year elections of 1942 and 1943.  By January 1944 some 26 of the 48 governors were Republicans, including those of New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and even Kentucky.(22)  Most of the Democratic governors presided in the Southern states – in the North the GOP led 26 to 12.  Moreover, the Republican-governed states cast 339 electoral votes; the Democratic states, 192.
            The chief asset of Jordan’s book is making clear that many believed the Republicans did have a chance to defeat the Democrats in 1944.  He makes the horse race interesting and exciting.
            Who would the candidates be?  The Republican front-runners of 1940, New York Attorney General Thomas Dewey, Michigan Sen. Arthur Vandenberg, and Ohio Sen. Robert Taft fell victim to the Nazi blitz that swept western Europe in spring/summer 1940.  A gangbusters DA, or rather isolationist senators seemed poor choices to many internationalists once Hitler’s troops marched beneath the Eiffel Tower.  The GOP’s convention galleries were packed with interventionists shouting “We Want Willkie!” Wendell Willkie, a Democrat just turned Republican who was critical of Roosevelt, a Wall Street attorney, and an internationalist.  The delegates yielded to the enthusiasm of the balconies and nominated Willkie.  Meanwhile, the Democrats nominated FDR for an unprecedented third term.  Roosevelt dumped his vice-president, Texan John Garner, and demanded his running mate be the Sec. of Agriculture, Iowan Henry Wallace.
            Many isolationists were not happy about either choice in the election.  Similarly, the far left, the Communists were opposed to any aid for the imperialist powers (the UK, or the defeated France, etc.) and determined to keep the US out of war.  (Of course, that would change in summer 1941 when Hitler broke the non-aggression pact with Stalin and began a massive attack on the Soviet Union.)  Willkie did not win, he cut the Republican voter deficit from 11 million in 1936 to 5.5 million in 1940.  After the off-year elections, many Republicans believed that 1944 would be their year.
            Willkie had been the titular leader of the Republicans, but his internationalism and other views made him anathema to many members of the party.  One example, Willkie in his campaign for the nomination proclaimed that taxes were too low, thus shifting the day’s burdens on to the next generation.  Also, Willkie had made an international fact-finding tour at the behest of President Roosevelt.  To some Republicans, Willkie was still a Democrat.  Could he win the nomination once again?  There were many fewer presidential primaries in 1944 than today.  Willkie targeted Wisconsin – what some viewed as the most isolationist state in the nation.(85)  If he could do well there, he could do well with Republicans anywhere.  He campaigned heavily in the state, one in which Democrats might vote in the GOP primary.  Dewey pretended he would not run, but might be drafted, and so did not campaign.  Gov. Stassen was in the service, while Gen. Douglas MacArthur was busy in the Pacific.  The Wisconsin primary results were decisive: Dewey 40%, MacArthur 24%, Stassen 20%, and Willkie 16%.(90)  Willkie failed to win a single delegate, and the following night withdrew from the contest for the nomination.
            Dewey continued as front-runner, and the Republican convention in Philadelphia was dull as everyone assumed they knew the result.  Another important item omitted by Jordan were the Zionists, especially Benzion Netanyahu, father of Benjamin, who persuaded Dewey and other Republican leaders to include a plank in support of a Jewish state in the Middle East.  Some allege that this forced the Democrats to also support a Zionist state.  However, the GOP platform had strong civil rights planks calling for a permanent FEPC, etc., but this did not force the Democrats to adopt a similar platform on Black civil rights.  Jordan acknowledged the Democrats waffled on civil rights issues.  One surprise was the choice for Vice President.  Most thought it would go to California Gov. Earl Warren, but Warren believed chances would be better in 1948, and asked not to be named.  So Dewey, the nominee, selected his conservative rival for the nomination, Ohio’s Gov. John Bricker.  One of their slogans: End the War quicker with Dewey and Bricker!
            Though some feared FDR’s health might preclude another run for office, his long-term doctor (whom Roosevelt had promoted to Admiral and Surgeon General) assured reporters that the President was in good health.  And for the Democrats, the question was, if not FDR, then who?  There seemed to be no other candidate with whom they could win in November.  But what if?  Should VP Henry Wallace continue in that office?  He had the support of the Left Wing, unions, and minorities, but he was hated by big-city bosses and most Southern politicians.
            Jordan is excellent at exposing the duplicitous role played by FDR, assuring Wallace he favored him, then urging South Carolinian and acting president on many issues, James Byrnes, to run for the nomination, then pushing Sen. Alben Barkley to do the same, and even encouraging others to join the fray.  Byrnes, who had resigned a Supreme Court seat, to manage many domestic issues so FDR could concentrate on the war, was opposed by Blacks who did not want a Southerner to come to power, and by the Roman Catholic hierarchy, who resented his leaving the church to become a Protestant.  In a last minute desperate effort to mollify some Democratic bosses, Byrnes told them he could accept a permanent FEPC, but by then the bosses were looking elsewhere.  Kentucky Sen. Barkley was also deemed to Southern by labor and Black groups.  Byrnes thought he was the choice, but Roosevelt, while promising support, told leaders to first “clear it with Sidney” Hillman, leader of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers, who had worked in his union with Communist organizers, who was a member of the popular-front American Labor Party in New York, and who led the CIO’s Political Action Committee.  Although Hillman clearly preferred Wallace, he would reject both Byrnes and Barkley, but he could accept Missouri Sen. Harry Truman.  The jilted Byrnes would leak the “clear it with Sidney” statement to the press (203), and it would become part of rhetoric of the Republican campaign, proving how radical left-wingers dominated the Democratic Party.
            The Democratic convention renominated Roosevelt for the top spot.  Although the Left packed the galleries one night, hoping to Willkie the convention to renominate Henry Wallace, the party bosses that night delayed the roll calls for the nomination.  Next day, security prevented many laborites from swelling the galleries and the floor.  On the first ballot Wallace led with 429.5, followed by Truman with 319.5, and others, but 589 were required for the nomination.  The second ballot, many favorites sons released their delegates, and the Truman stampede was on.  The ticket would be Roosevelt and Truman.
While Dewey attacked the inefficiency of the Democrats and their huge bureaucracy, FDR could joke about it.  If his Administration were so incompetent, how come the Allies are winning the war?  Ask Hitler if we are inefficient?  Ask Mussolini or Tojo.  American economic might and American fighting men were winning on ever more fronts against a shrinking Axis.  There were annoying ration cards for sugar, meat, gasoline, but this was a small price to pay. 
            Jordan writes that few Americans were aware that Japanese had been interned in camps – or that German and Italian nationals had also been rounded up.  But perhaps Jordan himself is unaware of the latter as he makes no mention of it.  Indeed, Jordan is silent on the curtailing of civil liberties under FDR;  Father Coughlin had been silenced and his National Union for Social Justice crippled by postal authorities.  Although FDR pardoned Communist leader Earl Browder, FDR’s Administration, with the support of the Communists, prosecuted strikers who were Trotskyists for violation of the Smith Act.  On the other hand, there was an election during a major war, and there was criticism of the incumbents; but there were narrower limits to permitted criticism.
            By autumn 1944 unemployment was a bad memory and labor shortages encouraged women into the workplace as never before.  The Allies were closing the pincers round a losing Axis.  The depression was over and victory in war was visible.  When the votes were counted in November 1944, Roosevelt won by more than 3 million.  It was the last time that the Democrats carried every Southern state.  Because men were at war, it may have been the first election in which more women than men voted.  Turnout was higher than anticipated, but still quite low in Southern states with the poll tax and other restrictions.  Though the GOP platform was far more explicit that the Democratic on protecting rights of Blacks, and even though Dewey had the support of Black newspapers like the Pittsburgh Courier, the Baltimore Afro-American, and the N.Y. Amsterdam News (268), even though Gov. Dewey had enacted New York’s state FEPC, the first such in the nation, FDR won some 68% of the Black vote.
            In January 1945 Roosevelt began his 4th term as President, and in April he died.  Harry Truman was sworn in as President.  Only then did an  Administration insider inform him about the A-bomb.  Soon after, at a Big-3 conference in Potsdam, Truman told Stalin something about the new weapon the Americans had developed.  Had he wanted, Stalin could have told Truman even more about the American bomb!  Suitcases full!
            The 1944 election was one in which the parties differed sharply on many issues.  Jordan’s book is a good read on popular issues, on the lighter aspects of the campaign.  But his book avoids the many darker issues that troubled America then, and later.        

Sunday, January 20, 2013

JFK ASSASSINATION - a few comments

   First, I watched the History Channel program on the Presidents, about 8 hours.  This is a thumbnail sketch beginning with George Washington and going up to Obama, from the point of academics - that is liberals who identify with the Democratic Party.  Generally boring, and I was doing other things while watching.  One thing caught my attention - one historian mentioned that when he was in school in Miami in 1963, when the principal announced the shooting of Kennedy on the loud speaker, the historian said about half the pupils cheered.  This happened in New Orleans too.  Probably in much of the South.  But it is almost never reported.  The official liberal line is that JFK was loved.  No one could applaud his murder.  But they did.  It has been erased from history by the love-JFK, respect the President censors.
     Also of interest, a few days ago the son of Robert Kennedy announced that his father, bro of JFK, and Attorney General at the time, did not believe Oswald did it alone.  The nephew of JFK when asked about possible conspirators, added to the list, "rogue CIA agents."  Too bad RFK kept his doubt about the official line on the assassination to his family and did not demand a real probe, instead of the Warren Report.

Wednesday, January 9, 2013


By Hugh Murray
     There is now speculation that Pres. Obama will issue an Executive Order to restrict gun sales and thereby avoid amending the American Constitution, and avoid Congressional opposition.
     One should stress that not all radical Executive Orders fulfill their purpose.  For example, in 1942 another extremely radical American President, Franklin Delano Roosevelt issued an Executive Order.  Below is how wikipedia describes it:   
    "He [FDR] also issued Executive Order 9250 in October 1942, later to be rescinded by Congress, which raised the marginal tax rate for salaries exceeding $25,000 (after tax) to 100%, thereby limiting salaries to $25,000..."
     So in FDR's America, no one was to earn more than $25,000!  Or if you earned more than that, there would be a tax of 100% on earnings above 25k.  Not only did FDR's government have Communist spies at the time, but he was pushing far-left policies for America.  Happily, Congress prevented the implementation of FDR's confiscatory Executive Order, and today many Americans are happy to earn more than $25,000 a year.
     One hopes that Congress will prevent any implementation of Obama's attempt to defy the Constitution and implement gun control through Executive Order.  If FDR's socialist program of a salary cap could be defeated during WWII, Obama's socialist program on guns can be defeated today.
     Would you favor reintroduction of FDR's Executive Order limiting salaries to $25,000?